Links to new I-L161 draft tree

Here is the new L-L161 draft tree based on Big Y results. Click here for a pdf version and click here for a png version.  (Note the PDF version was updated Feb 10, 2016 and includes some SNP names not shown on the png version)

There has been a lot of progress and I think all known I-L161 people fit into one of the major branches shown here, and in most cases we can predict a very specific branch for someone based on 67 STR markers.

Here are some comments starting at the top of the tree:
The I-Y13338 branch has very few known members, they were formerly called the Isles-B2b cluster. The I-Y13338* branch at very top is a closely related group from Thrace (the European part of Turkey and adjacent area of Bulgaria), and the I-Y13330 branch contains two members of a Polish family. Based on distinctive STR markers I think a family from southern Iraq, a family from central Germany, and a family from Cuba also belong to I-Y13338 and they all seem to be closer to the Polish family than to the Thracian group.

The I-S2742 group contains more branches that were formerly called Isles-B: for example, the Isles-B4 group which is very rare and from southern England and has the very distinctive marker value DYS388=11. I-S2742 also includes the Isles-B1 group which is all closely related to each other, maybe they are all Americans with English ancestry? And I-S2742 also includes a few additional English-origin families who don't belong to B1 or B4, as well as some German families who haven't done Big Y and haven't fully tested the known SNPs.

The I-FGC7169 group contains all of Ken Nordvedt's Isles-C and Isles-D clusters which are almost completely Irish and British with a few Canadians with ancestry from France. It turns out that Isles-C1, Isles-C2, and Isles-D2 are all related to each other and comprise the I-FGC7184 branch (although Isles-C1 is more complex and doesn't form a single branch. Isles-C2 and Isles-D2 are each single, well-defined branches). But Isles-D1 turns out to be very complicated and not closely related to Isles-D2. There are several small branches that were formerly called Isles-D1: Isles-D3/D99 represented by kit 306862, the "Todd cluster" represented by kits 192579 and 432883,  and kit 164613 is in his own branch at present.

The I-A1150 branch contains more Isles-B people: Isles-B5 which doesn't have very distinctive STR markers, and Isles-B3 which has the distinctive DYS392=12 value, and a few people who don't belong to either of these groups. All known members of I-A1150 are from Britain or Ireland (most are from England).

The branch shown with the novel variant 2720236 A to G  (now called A10028) and 19 additional novel variants is represented by only two known men, one from Scotland and one from Ireland

The I-PF4135 branch is the Isles-A branch, mostly from Britain and also Ireland. Most of the subbranches shown are based on Big Ys for the Munro family, and if more families do Big Ys we will learn much more. There is a single man, kit 23143 who has received PF4135- results and his STR markers are slightly different from the PF4135- men, but I'm sure he shares most of the other novel variants/SNPs listed as equivalent to PF4135.

November 2015 draft tree for I-L161 "Isles"

These trees are getting bigger and I don't know how to add them here in a readable format. But if you click here you should be able to download the original tree which is ~150kB.

November 2015 I-L621 "Dinaric and Disles" Draft Tree

The trees are getting bigger and harder to read, and I don't know how to post them in their original format. But if you click here to download  you should get the original ~142kB .png file and you can open it and zoom in on the part of the tree you are interested in. 

September draft tree for I-L161

This tree includes the second Big Y result for Isles-C1. The two Isles-C1 men share 4 SNPs not found in Isles-C2. One of these is available at YSeq.net: A7729 and I encourage all Isles-C1 men to order it at this link: order A7729

September draft tree for I-L621

SNPs A7358 and A7318 (below A1328) are added.
Also, a new Big Y result (kit #402724) in the I-A2423 haplogroup.

Updated text: August 24, 2015 Tree for I-L621

I think you should be able to see the information on this tree. It shows the new I-A2512 branch. Probably there are more additions compared to the earlier I-L621 trees.

A fourth major branch of I-CTS10228 "Dinaric" and two new SNPs available for testing: Almost everyone in I-CTS10228 belongs to one of three branches: I-S17250, I-Y4460 or I-Z17855. But there are a few people who are CTS10228+ and S17250- Y4460- Z17855-. We now know that there is a fourth branch called I-A2512. Two people have done Big Ys which show that they belong to this group: kit 4605 from the "Jewish Dinaric" cluster, and kit N80837 who has Greek ancestry and is part of the Mediterranean Dinaric cluster. Kit 54093 has also received Y2512+ results from YSeq, he is also part of the Mediterranean Dinaric cluster and more specifically the New Mexico Dinaric cluster. Finally there is an anonymous sample (GS000018440-DID) from Chuvashia that was sequenced by the Estonian Biocentre and found to belong to I-A2512, see: http://i2aproject.blogspot.com/2015/03/i-cts10228-dinaric-samples-in-estonian.html A2512 (position 13203040) is available for testing at YSeq and people who have already received CTS10228+ and S17250- Y4460- Z17855- should test A2512. That is a very small number of people, most Dinarics do not need to test A2512, please ask us if you have any questions. Another novel variant at position 9853064 is shared by kits 4605 and N80837 and by GS000018440-DID but there is no test available currently. Finally, kit N80837 Greek ancestry shares the novel variant 18741220 with the Chuvashia sample GS000018440-DID but the Jewish Dinaric man kit 4605 does not have this SNP. 18741220 is available for testing at YSeq, it is called A7134 and it is recommended for the New Mexico Dinaric cluster and other members of the Mediterranean cluster, and anyone who has already received A2512+ results. You can see a new tree with these branches here: http://i2aproject.blogspot.com/2015/08/august-24-2015-tree-for-i-l621.html

And you can see some of the groups discussed here:
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/I2aHapGroup/default.aspx?section=ycolorized I apologize in advance if I have made any errors in this post.

(Tree updated 21 Sept 2015 to correct error in a kit number)

New I-M26 tree after 5 Big Ys for M26+ L160- people

The current FTDNA haplotree shows around 21 branches of I-M26, and 20 of these branches belong to I-L160 and everyone else is lumped together in I-M26*:

In fact, the I-P37 project has known for several years about many other branches which are M26+ L160-.

 The I-L277 * and I-L247 groups are very small. The I-PF6947 group is bigger (at least outside of Sardinia/in North America), about a third of I-M26 in Ireland might belong to I-PF6947. But by far most of the M26+ L160- people belong to what is called the I-L672* branch on the tree above. This includes the large group that Ken Nordtvedt nicknamed M26*-"France" many years ago, it has the distinctive marker values DYS391=9 and DYS425=null. It also includes a group with DYS413=19,22 and many other distinctive marker values (name in this group include Riddick, Bigham, Zimmerman, Odgers etc). And it includes many other people who don't fit into any of these marker based clusters.

You can see all of these groups at the top of the FTDNA I-P37 project STR results page: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/I2aHapGroup/default.aspx?section=ycolorized

In December 2014 two people in I-PF6947 and three people in I-L672*  in M26*-France ordered the Big Y test, and now the tests are completed and we have this tree:

Because three people in the M26-France group did Big Y, we were able to find two branches. I recommend that all M26-France people test Y14720 and Y14722, or the Big Y. As more people in M26-France do Big Y or similar tests, we will quickly find new branches.

Only two people in I-PF6947 have done Big Y, so we only have one branch which shows the 18 SNPs that they share. As soon as a third person in I-PF6947 does Big Y we will be able to add another branch to the tree. And now PF6947, Y15579 etc. have been added to the official YFull tree:

At this point, it would be most useful for I-PF6947 people to do additional Big Y tests, perhaps the Crowley family could pool funds to order one Big Y, and the Healy/O'Donoghue family could do the same.

What tests should the other M26+ L672+ L160- people order? A Big Y would be useful for anyone, because we now have 5 Big Y results for comparison, Beyond that, I recommend a Y11222 test, I expect that all of these people will be Y11222+.

PF6947 is already available at FTDNA for $39. We have requested some of the new SNPs from FTDNA but have informed us that they will not add uncommon SNPs to their catalog at present. I suggest that you order the SNPs I have recommended (Y11222, Y14720, Y14722) from YSeq.net which is headed by Thomas Krahn, formerly of FTDNA. SNPs at YSeq cost $17.50 each. You will need to give a new cheek scrape sample, and there is a one time cost of approximately $5 for the sample kit and shipping.