Tuesday, September 10, 2019

2019-09-10 draft tree for I-Y4460

Click here to download our 2019-09-10 draft tree for I-Y4460

This tree shows several updates:

  • another I-Y4460* sample, it's from Bosnia and Herzegovina, and I think he has earlier ancestry from Slovakia  his family was "from Montenegro where they have been living for a few centuries, and before that they lived in Macedonia or Bulgaria" (edited thanks to comment below from Georg)
  • a new branch called I-FT78951, the samples are from Poland and Ukraine
  • another sample in I-Y88617 (all three samples are from Sweden). Two of the samples belong to the more specific I-Y109860 branch
  • I-FT16121 which is immediately below I-Y3118


Click here to find our previous tree for I-Y4460
Click here for a brief description of the I-Y4460 haplogroup

4 comments:

  1. @Bernie, @Zdenko, I know I maybe not right, I have not full and correct understanding, but phrase "B57+ not reported in Big Y, should be checked in I-S8201" seems to me not fully relevant anymore, considering Big Y-700 does provide more details in regards to Y3106 and B57, and as result, BAM file uploaded to YFULL now gives ability to see more reads. Also FTDNA - now I can at least see Y3106 in "Named Variants". But YES, B57 is still NOT shown in "Named Variants" section of Big Y results. But on SNPs Haplogroup page B57 shown as "Presumed Positive".

    Maybe it needs to rephrase or additional FTDNA research around such SNPs like B57 and Y3106. I don't know any other examples, hope you know, and can see the similarity.

    PS.
    Big Y-500 BAM uploaded to YFULL, shows Y3106 and B57 as “no call”.
    Big Y-700 BAM uploaded to YFUL shows as “positive”:
    - B57 does have 2 reads, and weight of T is 1.0.
    - Y3106 does have 13 reads, but it’s less confident: C(~0.7633), G(~0.2366), error (~0.3347). So it’s shown as positive, but still questionable.

    I keep updated YFULL results on my blog:
    https://lundiak.wordpress.com/2018/07/30/yfull-com-results-ydna/

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  2. The man who is I-Y4460* lives in Bosnia and Herzegovina, but his family is from Montenegro where they have been living for a few centuries, and before that they lived in Macedonia or Bulgaria. The surname is not pronounced /Kohan/ but /Kot͡ʃan/.

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  3. Andrii, I will ask Zdenko about the B57+ comment. Maybe he forgot to remove from the tree

    Georg, thanks for the information about the I-Y4460* sample

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